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SACRAI~1FJ:1TO,, CAL!FORNIA . MARCH 7, 1961

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!•lessrs. Alan Cranston,, Controller, Chairman !1le:nn r~.,. Anderson, Lieutenant Gove:r1nor .John E. Carr, Director of. Finance

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Reporte1"~. Loui::i;,e H. Lillico D1v:toion of Adminlstrat:tve Pt•ocetl'e

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(a) County of Sonoma

( b) Beaches and l?axtks

(c) D5,.v1si.on of Highways

PERMITS~ EASEMENTS, LEASES, RiflHTS~OF-WAY, FEE

(a) Calif .Elec. Power Co.

(b) Calnev Pipe Line Co ..

{ c}. Cr)own Zellerbach Corp.

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((.;) Eleventh Naval :Oistrlct

( f} Eclith C. Fmight

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CITY OF LONG BEACH

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AU>l:rlORIZATION BE SERVICES TO CO:i.AJfU'i.DO BOU'.NDARY C01t-1M!SS ION

CO~W1IEiFIATIOM OF TiRANSACT!.ONS E~:0;.rn:rED 1;:r EXECtfTI11E OJ:iFICER:

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2 The fl.rs:~ it;·em befor<.l us is 11Item Cla~s1t1oa.t'l;on· ·1 ~~. Pe;~m:a.·ts,~ . ·

31· '*'sem.en~s, a~d r1ghtt~oi'*~Y' to ~~ g~aritt.l~ to ~~1~1.1.l'f and., .· i A • \(,')the!' aget\ciee,. at n? :ree: (a) ii Co~ty ··or 8on01UaiJ applJ.c.ant;,;J .. . . !_\ I 5 · . propds~d·· a~tnor:tza.tiop. _...,. .Dredging pertf1:t.-t. foxw approxilr•~elt

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l I<!R. CAM: I think we ~~hould do tben~ separately~ · I l•IR. CiiAi:ISTOl:H J:s there any informati<.-n on th.ts or i'

ll i~ a m.r;f J..~n in oroor o.ri {a}? J

lOR't!G ~ A motion wotild be in ord.e:i.'l) m1leas ·tner t t.'3. ail"~ quest~.ens. As outl;Lned in t:t.L~ ~alendar, complete with

11 ma.pa.,, t!i.e natur~ or the ope:rat:lon propQaed to b& aut~ori~ed

l5. · is a :proposed tideland de'ftelopi1&nt which const:Ltutea

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(a} Cal:lf o:cn.ia Electx~ia PQwer C0mpa11y ·-~ 49-Y·ear

right-or-wa:y eaaem~nt for pole J~J.n.e across 4.85 acres s.ahool

lands, five /Ailes' no1-:-theast of Tl?ll)na.t Inyo Cov.nty.., tqt;al

rental $1, 12Y ~·

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(b) Calnev Pipe Line Company -- 49-year pipe line I eaaement11 aorosa a:Chool l&ndo, San Berna1•dino Corn:~ty - < J.) J 3.07 aorez; total ~ntal $498.Jl; (2) 1.35 aox•es; total ~~mta~, ~ l'"''t!~ ~. 4· ~l ~;~ ~ "i' .•

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a ., MR• ORA1'1STOit: Ap~;tl\oval:. moved, seconded afid made

(d} R~ V., Uyphet7,, tour •••• ;j

'i .. I .. ,· GOV'. A~~rtSOM; Di<ln 1 t you skip ( c) ~ s ' ~m." ifMN~TON: ( o) CroWP,. Zi3llerbach Cor~'OlN1tion --

9 . tive·-year minor atru.ctu!:"¥_, peru1it, t:t.de aud submerged land·s in

lG . San Joaquir.L Ri·11el.'* ~ Contra Costa County, for fout~ day beacon

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GOV.. AN1'ERSON :. Second.

14 r:,ra,. GP.:..lNSTON; App»oval moved, se~onded and made

16 permits~. all ~.n L~perial Coui-ity., fo1? geotherrr~l steam, minera

17 wa ter~a /J a,nd all mi.i:terals othel" than oi.l and gas and cal~bon

lS d,toxiae gas, at standard roynlty rates: {l) 55 acres propriet . '

19 land, (2) 160 &Gras p:ropr:teta1~ land;t ·. {3) 160 acres p~prieta"

20 land• ( 4} 160 acre:. J;r-oprietai.7 land. . . t 21. MR, UOO'l'XG: Mr. e.\laiman, the CommiS::s:t.on,,will i•eca~l ..

22' that prcsl1ect!l'ig i1~1rn11t$ have been isaued h.eretof ore to the

23 swue api1lic:ant fo~ th.e same purposes on vac1ant State achocl

24: l"nda in !mp(.n~·ial CQW:lt:y. AG a :result of the diJVelopment of·

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conJu,not.1o:n w:ttb the State .Lands Commission prospecting p.ei•mitr·

as far a.a. the time scti,edul~ is conce1"ned. :B"1ah and Game x1ave

given·approval to the aonduot of this op~a.tion and. the· jUr;Lsi

diction Q,Ve:t't :m:1.ne1.,a:is. in t11eae land,$ ia in the State Land$ coi+ /)

mission, Go thls ia be:lng recommended in a:ugmentat:.on ot a

7 J project,. previously approved by the State Lands Conunitlsion.

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:r:rR. CA.RR: Has there been any report on his explora.

tic'n up to date?

r.:m. HORTIGt T.here has been no drilling., r·ir« Carr,

11 in anticipation of secu-r.ing the permits for these lands, 111

12 · order tha·t there .,.~muld be a m:inilnuni of. J11ove-in and move-out

ii.·' 13. e~~sts .of takirtg drilling equipment into the ;~e·ner-al ar.~~a .. !

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GOV,. ANDER.SOM: Second,~

MR .. CMMS.~ON: Approval is m.oved1 .seconded, made

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.. pl>@pe>led as an increa1Je' i\~?m. ... the previoualy charged Jf.and re~:t ,, ,·,"\

5 l)f $126.63; ~ a1m11arli on~.the se4ond parcel, p:vlor l>ental r a . under the prev1ou.sJ.~· ex1st1ng ieaa.e was $319.20 a. year., whJ.,c:n L 7 J.s to be increas~: to $5,274 ar.nually. j

rtiR. CARR; They are p1->asen.tJ.y uoit~g thi;:s for a guru.i.~"

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fl'iR. CARR: Are they act~al1y using. 1t~?

. ~.i.R. H0.11.TIG: Yes, particularly ot:it of El Centro., an

13 the !4arine. Corps are using 1-t ••• ~

ao~1.. ANDERSON: In either WO:tlds 3 they are U$ing tllis

15 area :C~e now?

No sir, they have heretofore used thee

171 areas unde1~~, leaoes :front the La.nda Qonitni~si~n.

16 . Gl·OV.,, AMDER.~ON: They are under lease now?

19 MR. ltORTIG: They are,, but· at a much lower· ~ntal

20 than on the issuance of the.s.e new l~aees.

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Q~~y.. AN'DERSON: So move.

I 1 ct :Like to ouggeut that in view 01• the fa.ct that

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tf'-alt w .p&'ss these 1'ileiPi and move to <1thera

~,, . ~Z\J:*e :inll)ormmt·~ thfA.t ~ieed hie i>re~enoeJI .·and cd•~ back 'to. ) ~ I \ ' '. .T-' ' ~ ' ., .:

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MR., OM~S~X>l~: I agree, Frank. Item (l) unde~· the

9 '3aine olas1~ii'imlt~on • • • • f ·· le MR. HORiJ:J;G ~~ Pages 31.~ to 36e i l~ MR •. ~Rf!.N3'1'0N: •• ~ Shell Oi.l dompMY -- Jl!odifica1;:1.o;

, I ' ' i is· . o1t $eophys:Ucal explo~at:ton permits, O~ter Con'f'inental Sbelf I 1$ l~ds- no.t. cla.~~d by ualif"ornia." wai.ving State. in.spectivn re- I

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1, qu:l.'lrementa ~ aUbj e,c t to. appmwal o~ Director of' U. s •. Geolog.t!lf ·

15. '· S'UX!'ve)... ·Frank,, weuld:· :you i')om.me1it 'b:tlletly?

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17 1 th€t State of Cal:tto1~n:ta, prior to the Submerged ~-:lnda A~'t ·in: I'

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.· 1953; whieh returned all -- or quitcla.:t~m~d a.ii Fede:r•al el~inis

to ... tiae and aub•rged lanq~~; within th~ hist~r'ie Iunits 01;

California at least t<:1f thl.1ee r1ile:d of.fsho:ee, and subsequ.en;e t

that Aot also, the State of Ca:hif'ornia. has. claimed that the " t

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2.~ bound~:r~~ · lt'ts 01t ~h~ :4-ea"W'ard s ldie ~:Jr the ohafinel iela.7<ldB o·tf:

24 St<.n~the~'?n Oali:t"otm:i.a and o\ttaide ot o!~t-l';y.tng ~isl.ands, X'1Jake

251 and r.:~~~ro proacedlnt; tl<.lI11tfrwai.~d and no1..,tn of t.?oint Cor1~eption, ·

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l:ith the qiitit·~l~~!>:f the United'' Sta.tea, there was I~ . , . ·' ,, ;f.-" '-·~::. , . "/ 1

.... '·J · 1, •fopted subllequentlf .~. OU.te.1'1 Coritinental Shelt Lan\ls Aob,

}1 4'. ~. •9:r \-:h;t.¢h· the Un1ted .tltates elaim* Jur1sd1ct1on, and exer-

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tho~~ lands out~ide t~1~;. Stat~''s boUrt..d·aey •. At that time, the

Sac:r.teta~ i}.,f~ Inte~iorp tl1e State Land6 commission ot the Stai~

Of' Calif <>rnia.1 a!'ld tf!e, Depai~tm~nt .of Fish and , Game ~,r1t~ered

L"1to a joint, a.gl'}t~Gfilent that· f ot' future geophysical and ~eo-

1og1oal expl.ora.t1.on. on ~>:t~r~iore lands, in 01~c1er t~o eliminate

.~ 11· the need tor duplicate insp~,,,~~;,,~on or .Pertnit ·or aupe11v1sor:f

. ·· :.fll· , . f!iif ilitieS off th&· shore O·f C~.l:tf'omia,. t:P..at Oalit:ornia WO'Ul.d ·

issue .. pertrl4t:a under· ·cal.if' ornia law which . would be. acceptable,

.to· the ,seeretacy or the Intv!rior;. and 1;~t operations would 'b

:S\ZP~~ntsed· otfsb<)re Californi~,' a~ to geologic.al and geo;physia·

:Lt . •~lo~t~fi irrespec~tve of< the distance oits110re and without J 11, th~~ neoe~ai~t;y of" det'e11mining acy dividing line between Cali""'

ro:rtnia tide and submerge¢ lands and Federal Outer Continerrtal

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At that time teeh.nologiea r.1.a.d not bee:n developed f.rr l

.i.n.· de.· e.p wa.tet-, a·. a 1a now. po ... 8sible -· m1e;~~t b~ p.oaaih11~."'' O(l; thif Outel' Oo~tiil.ental Shelf.'; nor was. thel"e ai'ty .

in exploring11r &~~n geoph1's1oalllf, the larida in t~~· t

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:s · . in. tt'ie '~ter ''.qi;int:!.nerttal Shelt l&md.s outside .the lands oJf the ~ .,. . sut~ or Ca.litorxiia, and a1t.0 desirous, -of ha'(~ a perm~~{ ·ur1de

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5 the j.(;int agreeptent with the Secretary of th~ Inte;zzior -.r-."'Whi · , . - . : r . ··~

s however, does not requi.re> as in the aa1'e of ca11torn1a /lahllt5 , I

7' ·. {Calif orn:tt~ claimed lands) the ma.king or. da:ti~. available'! frpm. !/ :\ I

the exploral;ion to ~he Suate Lands C'ommissioll;•

9 This request appears to be equitable inasmuch!/ as I

l.O· ·these la:nds have never bean claimed by the State of·' ca.J/i:tolmi , ·1

11 J and the u. s. Geological Survey. aa the designated repjreen~a

12 i of the Secretarir {1f the Irrterio:r in the &am1n1stration1/ al?·· th:i

i:sj·• act, .. :nave stated it is no1; polie1 nor requ~ed that t~~se be made available to tne ~State of California. ./

16 f' issue a modified exploration permit which is in the fJ " •. of

17. '' the \i. .,,l;i..bit attached, for the conduct of e:itploration QFE!ratio

i,a on Outer Cont:f.1'lental Shel.f lands not claimed by the s~~te of . . ,- \ ll

19 Calif.1101,nia,. Such permit will not req1J.ir~ ·State Landa pommis-

20 sion inspection ot opera:c1ons or 1'.J'.tate a.cce~Js to e:xplq~ation :1

21 data from lan.ds not claimed; by the State. 11

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25 would f)e .!.nV<=•lved ou Qu.tot- Contlrut.:nta.1 Shelf·\ landn nt.1t ·! Glaime '.: , ·.

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mended this approval to the Director of the u. s. Geological

Survey in Washington, p.c. ·" MR. CRAN'STO?I: Fine; and, John, I may aay I hlye

kept ve:t:fi( clo~ to this developinent through Frank an~(:9ther

ways, and I very strongly urge that we a.ppro1{e tb:le request

a.nd go along with Mr. Hort1g 1s request to tio authorize. I

believe this development~can 'be or very great hlistorie and ,' ,,

f1nattc1al development to th~" State by reason of mak:tug avail­

i\ble lands 'Which have not been available to th~ State and may

re;:.ult in inoney becoming available to support Beaches and .

Parks ...... •

GOV. A?IDERSON: Why have they not been ava.1labl~'l

NR. CRANSTON': This is a new procedure. This is

17. only the th1rd •• ,.".;!f

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l!ORT!G: We are not on that item yet. C.+~n, ~1.* I would like to the queotion, !·Ir ..

20 Chairm.an --why isn 1 t it advantat~eous for the State to know

21 what the reau1ts of thio exploration mitsht be? What advantall ,.

22 do we galn by renouncing our rlght to lmow? On all State tid

23 land;:;. tile 3tate Lands Corn.mlGs1on has repo1,ta as t4l what the \

24 r1esulto of' the exploratbn are. r~ow, nx.•c we pro1)03.tng not to

2~ aak i"o:t1 that 111rormatlon in thio caae ':

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1 po:!Jlt right there. There would be no renQ:l.tx1C:ing or waiver. 01-- •

2 ~ :righ:ts of the",S.tate or claifnt, or the State with respe¢t t · \._1 \

~\ s an, 1~id(! and subtm!trged · lands that oave ever been Qla1m.ed· b:f,, t ·

4 · ,, S-'tate of ca1~1rornla~

.GOV. AW>BRSON: What about th-0se out:,:iide?

:Mrt. CARR: One might be contiguous to the other.

"'t; 'Wey isn 1 t it advar1tageoua to the State Law\$ Commission to ~, ~~

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8 _ know wbiit 1 s across ~';h+i~ boundary, wherever 1.~ inigt\t be? A$ I . ,. ' J

9 take it, thiS exploafAtion penn1t would give the Shell Oil Com

10 . pany an explorationpem:tt to explore both State tidelands an.

11 , those that are not claimed by the State. Why should we not b

13c: interested in knowing what is going on on the United Sta~es•

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lands as well as the State la..11d?

HR. HORTIG: We could, of COl.!J.rse,, be ex.tremt~ly ·.

i·c'lereated academically; but ·legally and equ~tably w the Statt)e :

has no clai..'?tl to data that are developed 011 Outer Continental.

Shelf lands or the United States that are outside the ter~!­

toz-,tal limits and outside the a1ta.L'"l1~1 of State or Cal.ii.~ox-nia

GGV. ANDERSON: Wh.o would be gettin5 the :t:'cport?

r'm. HOR'l'IG:

22 , lands, because this is the way tb.e Department oi1 Inte.t .. iot\,

2s wno have Jurisdiction,, want it.

24 I hasten to point out there l.:J :a small eltJmau.t or I(

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1 i:· this. rnod~.fied. ,' p~ .. an is adopted: one· oh '·<'..

~· ~ lan~~ or tbe Stat;& of (Jal1to:rJ.1la,,

's data, a~\ it' ex1ats today;'., ~iid th~ which would raiJ.u~,,re all the,{·:·:·,·,

~$linqµisllment. a.I): to Q¢qt;ss. J

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1:.m. HORTIG: Both the Sh6ll Oil CQlll.f.~&?,y an.d the

the par1 I

15. GOV.. ANDERSON:; lilW do they ank us to do th.is . i:C we l

16 nave no eor1·trol . over it and have not be~~n aske(l for it up to

11' l10W?

:ir~qu1x~em~11t ~that we give it if they c;o out in thl$ a.rea.. Thi·

was of: no :importance when thay 'We:ra 1.u1able to e;~ploi~e. !·$ow

1;bey are able to (f;tJ out and explore the~e a:r~aa and l?ealize

from tlle:i .. r olfm da·ta the ha:t:.u."'d <:,1f a l:1.ab1l:Lty to 1'.i\n."?1ish this

24, cJ.' nalifornia has no J'Ul"isdiction; therefore, are a~ktng th.at

25 1' th1G poirr1.; be~ clarif ietl at th.lo tii~~o befo:t"e they get 1J'ilto rea

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<.Kil. '\Ml)EftSON: Sup,poee the7 go -out aJVf ma:ke these //'

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. '! "explotoat~.ons i>Ut · b~yond• our lim1t;'5 would you be asld,li~g for o~l.

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MR. RORTtG: IJ: we maintained our pileaent pelm>.its

-.e W<iuld hav~ t~;ii baeause our prestJnt pemits require that '~,

under th~ l~aw of California ..

GOV~ AH.Di..r.tsON: But they 3l'e 31ot in California-.

HORTIG: Ent they are operatL:115 under a Cal:t-

ti . , lo. to~nia petmit and this is the idiosn~crasy of the statute.

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111 M.R. CA.AA: 'Mr,,. Cha1rtiarx and Mr. Anderson, it seems

l~· mi~ that wh:i.le otu:i. interest-. mi~tt be defined as purely aca.demi

13 l ;i; .:think. academic interest is important ana I woUJ.d cel:'tainl.1 ..

~.···:£:!!:.''t.·. heaitate tc, go ~tong, with this pal?t, .. eul~r reque~t because I ~v think aeadeoo.ica.11~ we are vr:trv.J much interested in the Oute1 ..

tfl r. Continental Slle.:O: ~· beca~e tbey a.re o~' rJ.et.:t· ... do.or ·neigli.bc~rs iq . p,) 1/

1.7 &·ld I wo'u.ld be £01" g:£lantin,g an ex-:;;lor.sation permit prov:l.dit7fS w

18 get the same 1r1forrnat1on we do on Stat;e tidel'ands. •\

1J g c:~iitention that this ta .not ler.·,al -- we bav'~ n.o rici-ht to do t ~-- '°"' u

I nel.teve lt can be :;;u.nt.rnarized, Hr. Ca

31 :. tha,(; any claim t•? such data wculd be legall~ unenforcea.'ole.;

a2 and, r.1.umbtr two, tttat tJ:-1e next step,;on -continuing of auch a

.23, p:t:•ocra.m Wr;)Ultl be the 1res~1s:oi.on of the agreem.Gnt betweon the

24 Departn1ent or the J:ntez;ior a:n.d tlle State oi: Callforn.1a,, in61-

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3 .i· meJt ot Inte;..ior. woJld have ~t}eas .. ~c b.een UPf!,~t. . ·~ " 4.. GOV. ~ON:;,'~ would the Department <yf 1 J..nter1o

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fS. not want, us, to kl:'lOW1 ·tdta.t the explora.t1on was d~sco·vering out

6 · there?

I·IR. HORT!G: :Becaus1e theY:1

• don 1 t want to Jr..no,w. ,::--

I·lR. CARR~ ,. Why don't they want to kn.ow? As a citiz

9 . of the United States,, I want to know .,.,,_ whether it 1 s Californ a f

iol or the De~artment of ~teri~r.

11 I·ffi.. CRANSTOM: Do we have an op~n1cn t;rom the Attar .e~

12 General on this?

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I th!.lnk we migh.t well get one.

l-6 Dep~tnient ·of Interior why tney dontt warlt thi'3'l

11 I·lR. HORTIG: Because th:f,.G is not Federa,:l pract:tce

18 with respect to Fed~ral lands. '-·-·'

19 X1m .. CARR: I wonder i:r the new Secrei;~cy ot Interio

20 , knows this?

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Has this been reviewed by him?

dontt know.

Let•a do two thing a "<f'- let•s ask the 'f

24 Attorney Gene:c-al 1•oi~ an opinion and communicate with Clai:tr

~ Enclc and 3ae 1J:.· the new Secroto.:r;;--y or the Intc1--loi~ wJ.ll rovio1

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l MR. HORTIG• Mr. Chai:r.m.an.,, it ! . maq_ ,,n con11plianee . v-- '

' i ·. . \\ • I ., I( l) 2 ''wit}f that inet,ru1~t.1on a~Q$~"that the Q.o~i~Jton au.thoi-1se. ·

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:, 3. the ~e9ut1ve otticer."to nfrxl1fy exi~ting pe:rmits only ttl the .. .. ' '·/

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.,_ e~tent n~oessacy to be mJ;de ccmp$ttb1e ope~a.bly with :exploef:tv,f

15 . per.m.1ta heretofore auth1~rized b;r th~ Dt'Pat'tm.er.:t of F1ah and f · s Game. ~s 1:J;f January !!7th, Fiah and Game did a.uthar1ze the', l.. · 7 use ot ~ert~1n explosives at certain locations to our ex1st:tn1

a pel'Jllitt~s which Mfe larger limits pn po;«!el:' tJ:ian the Lands \ • _

9 Cornmission had adoptad (aea1n in concurrence wit:b. i11sh and Ga,e}•

10, So, ir. order to· permit these operations to aontinue w1thout i11· ·

11 any way ~eleasine; ox• wa:Lv:l.ng any rights to data, whate·ve:I!' th,

12 · may be, r would reco1~end i;ha--c the Commission authoriz.e the !

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J .. 4 Game authorization.· illsotar as,, explosive usage ia. con~iertJ~d ..

15 . ..., . ·MR.. CRANSTON: \(,'l1his 'Will nave no 1,ef.rect on the ''

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1.7 MR. HORTid: Nd sir. It would ohange no other te:r-ra

1e, or condition of the permit.

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NR. HORTIG: Otherwise, we have our op11~111ators

ground to a hal t.~ 1

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Is that the reaspn i'6r the modification?

.t\nd they want to

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t ... \\,. . . MR" HO.fffIG.:. ?es ·~.:t:111 and ~.~~a:1 Fish. &ld. earn: .. hav~ .... ··r

.. s ·· e.pp~+1ed :tt; and the ~-r101~ l.;1.m:1t~ 9~ .the· LI.nus ·C9mmis,sion lie~"".'

,4J «~l)'J'i1Jl theJ:··e because the'~' 'trere th$. ,limits «'.5f' Fish a:nd. Sa.mt . ..,· \·.

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MR'* CA.RR; I move~

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9 In i-tega:i..~d ·to yoitr tH11m .. tlunicat1on to the Attor1'J.e-y Genet~a:t a~nd t · [

lo.' Seeretary of the I;r1t·eriior and CJ.ai:t.:1 Engle.., l would aalt that ul y~11 prepare a . letter t~::~t would stat~ ~1 we are ir1teres ted ii

12 · such area13 ~ l'lhel!'e we have responsi b i.L;!. tJ.e s • namli!ly, ~he tide,,. f

13·, l.~ds areas; ·and ra\1.se the (1;.ueati.on .. why the Un1yt!d S:c~te~. Gov

I. would think they sho:aJ.d be. J ~:uld :ircu tell me the 1 tam ~ thought t

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24 t !"m"' CfiANSTON: !t doe3n·1 t; appe~r 1x1 tht: index.. J

25 j Supi;le::tcni;a:cy oalenciar item • • • • I 2SL1

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r**~'.at:."1i~•t.,.J:i•O*"if.,,..,...~ •*~•- ttrtkt1 ·eo&1•ro 1 1-"7'.l~•1·~· •r'~Jt.,,.r'1h$l"'j!t K_ ~.r 11•~••1·- • rti.¥•'1t·~""*il'~~1•1•l'i~;....,.~,.,rv~~~-e-1 t

1 f ... .. . MR~" CR:?jS'rON: Pase f; 7. ~%' .t the .t'Op _,.,

a , PropflSed oceati-f loo:t' Qil well iJO!npletj"'Qn_, Ricl"'+f tel.a 011,) C~)rpoi -/, if ::-:~)

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s ·t·1on~ R!neon i,.131<!. Fl'ariki> wotilf'l you briefly .explaih tllia!;. \ - ': '• .

. HR~ t!OlWIG.i If l may." ~caus~ it is alread¥ s~tllr~r .... ~ .. .

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Tile Riot.&iel'd .q,_.1{1 oor:• ,,

·~ · poration,. lessee tutder- specified leaoe at .Rincon Field, V.r~nturi

7 : Oo-ur1ty, tlas dr,illed a well int·o the leased area at a location ,.

a apprPXiciatel:y 9,000 tect we$terly pf' the ex:lst.ing pr~duct:i .. o~) ' - •' ' .,- - • .•, .· -l

9, ialand, in a water dept~:t o.? 1;~ l'(~y-nix reet;i; This is t 1he

10 .· production isJ.and all you Cor-Jnissioners have visit·ed heretofo ... '•

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f be eomp:teted f: or production using ocean i'loo:r production equi·.* .. ~ent desisneq and:, :ab:uicated under tb.e, d.i?Ject~an'"1 o!' the oper~tbl .. lt' an4 a:~proved by the C.Or:mdlssion 11 a tecb1J.1cal statr #I

1e . tha~ no pa;~t thereof w::..1+ projeo·t ove1~ a.bout t'Gn feet above·

17 .: cceal"l floor.

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23 the pres!~nt cent.ral:.tzed dr-ll.lin~ i'rom p~edi:u:.it1orl irilands...,

2~ l .l:ndtvidual ocean flooxi ccn1?lietion t.11~th~)d3; a1:ip~al? to otte1"

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com.pora.ents slmilat· to th~.la~/ pl'oposea here for . .use at~ n111con, '/

well :b1 Peru. in a water dep·th: of one humred tUirty ... tr10 feet"' :

.i?";J.rsuant to reeomiuen.aati()ns bY the Co:r,,missj,on'S tGcb

A final Departm.~nt or tl".1.e Am::,r pemi t, authorizing

·the placement of the production head on 'the ocean i"loo:r a~ a 9.

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1, ·~.1· .. i.·• F.ng;1neer•s on F·cbruaey 13th tltis ye.ar. The Ooast Guard have

·~ j :t~€.;-po1~t~~d ·that the pla.eeHent of the e·qu:'...pment · at t.he s·elected

15 I :l.ooatiori will not require their applt)oval,. .The onl~ 1nd.tcat1(i~. l4 i on the tn.lr.faoe o:f the: e,;::istenee of the well {this .is on tha

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1~an i,,loor) ln--ill 'be a marker buoy -- which11 parenthatj.call:y,

~ ™' re~,~Jl!$ coast 1lua:rd a:_p1n;•oval tor p~:~.e:men.t. !J:he, Pl:a;;luet1

171 ti•o!:'l the well wi.11 'be transported to onshore atorage .f'aeil:ltiT

l tb.raug~li. an ocean-floor· p:!.pelitie .• 18,. !9 ~. This·· iteni does not requir"e spraaific resolution (jf~

20 the St;ate l~1ds Comm:tsaion t-.or. impl(m:ten1.;at~\On.. However" bei '

21 , uietiifioant 1n te1tmw of 1:>eing the rlrst 9':<tt~ type in ca.11 ....

22 fornia and 3oro.eth1ng ,.,YOY may w1sh to com!'nf;nt ·on 1.,-urth,e1~, 1·1r.

25 1 CJ.1a.irrtian,r .it wa,o . .tel"~ des~ira.ble fJ}Or:J. an :tni'.e>1'1':1a.tion 1. standpo:tn:'

2:4.1 ttlat evecyone 1li:i i'ull:;r :lnf'o:rmed, that t;h:\a iterJ be repo1•te'1 t

l th~:: Land3 comn1isoJ .. 1on ~o:eore opc:ii•atior.:.o r:r.•om thL'l un.it u~.~e

: . o.ctt:ial.llT Ul¥ler1;a:;;on.

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a l"Oq'"uired 'by the Oommisa ion, I thin!:\ it would pe1--haps be adv~a ·

3 . able to S.iv<i a,pproval s1ntply. to in<licatc our aft:11rmat·1ve 31"P· '

4 ·. port of this program .•

5 and has kept me closely in toucr, with thio develo;,menµ.~ and I·

~ believe thia new approa-0h to getting oil will lead tG develop-·

7 ment ot t'ields we 1·1ave not heen able to develop in the par.it

a probably bring into the State oil and g~s for :Beaches and Par·

9 support that we have not had before.

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ll you ~nt down to see .fiOme weeks ago?

MR. HORTIG: As a matter of tact, you are

13 sittini on the floor ·oi: the Paoif 1c Ocean ... It is ready ·to· be

llr,: turned on. We have had final tests of it, as mentioned ear11

l5 The opergtor has cooperated with additional monitoring, satet

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l& 1 a10 measuring facilities~

17. t1lral sa.!*ety and it is by

It has been tested as t;o its strucJ·

all possible measurements completel;1'J

MR.11< CARR: Do I understand there was aJ.ao a s.trJ.ilar

Gulf i~exico ~omewhere by some ~~*~her oi

Yes oir. !t 1$ reported in press re ....

23 lea.a es o;i' Shell Oil Cor.1pany that an ocean f locixl coinplct .t:0n wa

2'. "1ade ln. a well o.,;.•;c~hore i 11"0!:1 Loulul.ana.., wi·th the additional

25 i~n1lJlue 1•(.,atui·~.~ t·~1at it le rel}i.:;r1to~l that ·that plaecm.e:nt wars ma· ~

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··1 Un.dexisea televil.ipn m~~:!~f,..~oring to :observe. th. e: opei~at~ons ~ ·the .. f:.i ,,

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: l' · f.iaal CO?Li'tl.eCtions ,1 and °t.he f 1na+ satety c~ntrol.s are· t4~der th~ ,; control of divere. ..

r.m. OARR: Were these twe installatio:nE? act:::<~rnplishe .

8 and operat<:~d with full et:>ntrol, oo that the1"'t; we.a no ea.cape o~,,

9 .· oil so that it washed at~hore ,and caused troubl'.1e 0£ that kind?

10 l~ZR. HORTIG: I can!1lot sey rrom our own independent

l.l: supervision with respect to. the well oi·r Peru,.. I believe thi"

~ 1~ the ca.re This is '!;he ca.se with .. resp,ec·e to this well~ at t1 i~. ...,, ·. " :>· •

~'.$ Rincon Oil Field,.

141 MR. CAR.i: I think that 1 s the only i~.a:.el'vatiQn~ ., ~·., "•

1G.J HR. HORTIG: 1J?l'1e head 1a in place~ •I) ..

16 VAR" CARR i ~ ,. ill the only reserva t:3;,on ! evej? had was

11 · the hope this would be aceompl.ish~d with complete secm•ity as

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21 CJ:OV » AlIDEF..30N~ That's th~ conC(~l'tl ! had. I thirlk

22 · we are a.J~l in. favor of tnirJ new app:.t:"oach" but I repre•e11teq fil -

25 dintricta of Hermosa and El neg1.u1do in. the r;ec1alature sever

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2 _ as to wh.-.t caused this. a: woi~ld, be oorulern.ed as to h(l.w m.u:eh

s · __ oil' 1s' going to b~ abl_t tQ e_pca~e during ita,, p%-od'1°t:Sroa and.­': '°rill111S' f.l'~tages~ snd i~ the ·tru1ld'lng ot th'e.--p;pe lkle" .. itow · ..

ts t1uc~r d-~l.ttger 'tbere · WOl!ld . ~e to th~> el'.~ia ~1fl$ ~o~uni ttes · for o:tl ,_ '

e ; gettihs along the be,a~ehes.. ~cse )tt~uld be rn:tl'' .c0i1cemcl! ·

7 MR~ HOR'.i:IG: Under th.is present 1nstallation the opp

a tunity fox•_ escap~, of any oi,l 1n the drilling 0~'1nlPlet1on and• o..o ....

9 nection of the pipe lines is and has been zero •... · It would t1;1kef

10 · a nu;i;;J·or cataclysm, truJ:y an -Act of, God,, against ~11.1oh we moi.,.ta

11 ·-_ e::ng:tneera ·at:tll can 1 t design,, to produce any diSl~lpt:t.on in con•-

12 necti.on with the tra..'l.apo:t."t line from the well heruf iti3elf to t .. e

J.3 , onshore J.oQa.tion. j u, I GOV. ANDERSON: In other word~, the tide, littoral f ·. lJS I drifts, ·tb.ings 1;tke that,, wouldn 1t ai'feot thi3 pipe line? f. iej· · ~!R. HCF.l'Ifh · can have no ei':f'eot. Tbe :w:tpe, line& avel ..

f l'l { s.afegua:rjied. There a:i;>e three lines ot defense to shut 'dom.

18 1 the well -- the t:trst man.ua.l.., the first automattic. and. the seco .. a ·

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20 HR .. CAl\R: Now, thia ~lar~ke:?? biioy that is part. of thel 21 · insta14.at1on _....,_ I. assum~~ - - ;[OU: i1ay 1·t requ~res Coast Guard . 1

221 approv,au ·f 231 ouov_· iU ac::~::::x:~th ~:::: :::> i•:1

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25 · Hll. OAHH: Now,, iZ you ti.ad u num'ber of ouch lnfltall.n

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'l. ~~f11 protect t.he :1nsta.:llat1on, you woul.dn 1 t want anyone anchor ....

21 in[t arou..~d.there?

.That !o coi"rect :1 although "J: ca;rl report i' :/ , . .

4 · that by ,011e of the additional saretiy features. dosigr1.ced by th~

·.~ 1: o~erat7or and modU'ied at the reoollllnendation ot the Comm.i3s:l.on •

9 technical staft") it is not i:eas1ble to do, ar1ything even wl tl1

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lS I GOV., ANDEP.SON: How far?

r•m. HORTIG:. I'.C is on the ocean floor in varying ·

dept.no dep·ending on the litt;oral drift, ~Jut it ia ccnpletely

14 . encased from wh.ere it goes undercr,ound and cannot possibly·· be "

15 · snagged at tl:1at location. Additionally, if there should be a

16 bi').eak in tl1e pipe as a result ot .ny upheaval, o~ possibly ' '

17. someone - - ! now have to aet int,;i the realr~1 or the :i:antastic .....

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someone decid:tnt; to d:tg a trench a:iong here and intersect;irig

the pipe line (an happens <.\ll the uplands) the:t)c are automatic

turecl •

24 . an.d what i~1 thG distanoo 'between these sa:recuards .:i oo what wo d

2a j or.i.e pi'lrti.cula:~ f;H:ct1~6H? ·1

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A matter or a, relatively rew barPela;

2. but for a specific answer,. 1.f I may put the Rlohfield repre-

3 sentative on the spot • ,. ••

MR. GARR; It would be intere:st1ng to ~,ow.

fS ~· OOOK: I cari 1 t quite h~al~ J'Ou, 'Mr., Carr • . 1q

a MR. CRANSTON': The question +s how much oil would b

7 in the t·wo eut-otf points if the pipe was ruptured.

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MR. HOR.TIG: Eerore it was cut off.

CARR:

COOK:

About· how far apart are the checlt ·valves

'Three thousar4d feet.

!~. CARR: What is the 31.Ze of the line?

HR. COOK: Two inches.

~IR. CARR: Now, scmebcdy quick at fie;ures oould tel

us how much oil would be in three thousand .reet :)f two-inch " pipe line. It would take ~ore than a quart of kerosene to

wipe chis off your feet?.

MR. COOK:

I•IR .. CA&'q: What is the specif'io et1ount ·:

l • . ... R ... •...t .. COOK~ That co1 .. 1ld be calculated, I;lr. Carr.. I

uon t t have the ·i;a'b.le witl::. In a t<lo-inch p:Lpc at three

thousand feet it p1 .. obably weiuldn 1 t be over two or th.:t."'e~ ba:r.-re . .1'

!ll. C-4RR: Io it forty-five Gallons or i'orty-two?

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l goin{~ to be on the l:tne and force the oil out. becauser the

2 preasu;re at both ends will be ~mm.ed.1artel1 cut off. Your actta .·

5 loss would perhaps be a bucketful. \;:,

(Quust:ton by Mr. Cran~iton t.tnintel11gible to reporte·~-) .. \ .

f.m. HORTIQ: Any opera~ion 1nvolv1ne; this line 1«>ul,

necessarily be with:Ln the limits of the exclus1v~: lease of,'.' 1·

7 . Richf 1eld Oill'i, Corpo1"ation. / / I -GOV. ANDERSON: If this pipe is laid along th~ ocaQ.!lf

9 floor - - I -understand it 1 s cased in, bu.t. f'1:>0G1 then on: 1t1 s

10 . pretty much along the f.loot•?

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MR. HORTIG: Yes sir.

GOV... ANDERSON: And your li ttot"al dr·ifts change and

13 ' you mig'..~t have your plpes sticking up Cou1" feet in i.:;he1) air · .,

• 14·: where the~· had been dug ur.i.der - ·"' an anchoi, coming 'along th.er, , 0

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HR .. HORTIG: This ian1 t J..1.Uite the r-esul:b, Governor,,

i ... or the reaaon these lines are ancho:r.,ed with conr.;rete and 1··

steel we.1.gbts and otherwise so they always stay O!il t:he .ocean '

floor. They are even suffic:tently flexible th.at they asamne

20. the contour of t.he ocean floot" and stay at the 'bottom~ I

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CARR: I move we indicate our approval or this

And c<>ncern .eor • • • • •

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it go to Item a~. lit '8."' N. 2 GOV .AND!s~eN: I would J.ike to ht4"/e the ata:rr make

a spea~f ic cbeck'on this artd bring ·:}~'t oaok to us later.., '"' I .L

ft; MR., CMN'STOM: ~-·

Could you summarize t~\latr I r~m .. HORTIG: Yes sir .. e I

'I':/ ii.11\. CRA,NSTON: T·~e"a 8 ......... Rep(>:t"'t on pt~1;pose(l oil' and I I ..., ,_. •M

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S,, gas lease, fa111eel' l~ Uo :!Ot'll~ission ac.tlon. ?:(.;quired. 'Fra.nk'l

91 ·· MR. R~R'flG: On February 3, 1961, which was the

lo II designated date for renz~f!jw,Pt of bids on .Pa1 .. eel l.t p1?ev1ously

11 · , autho:r.•:tzad for J.ea.se off er tr-3 the Sta·te Lands Comm1asionJt :no

121' bids were 1~cei ved. Tf1:ts area inc.l~..tded in l?arr.:n~l l,,, as shot-.n I~, J.3 on Exh:.l.bit A atta1Ched to youzt. maps> indicates t~.at. thi;r pa.ro~

• I 14,, W!US the westerirut1ost of the se1 .. j .. es ot.1 parcel,~ that the Commts-

151 sion has had unde:t:) conalda~ati.on in Sant:a Barbara Cowlt)~

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19, ti'.',e weatertl..rtio$t exlsting lease as shown ori the attached map,,,

20 · dld pz•oduce a •jen::~·1ea of three bids la$t Friday,$ :C'anging .from

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1~eported to the Commisoion. :2oi-i oonc:lticratio11 o:t."" an awava of

1 r;:edu~:·~ ·~~;· ~e~. :.~~-Apr~~ -12~ 0

l~~~ -~n thie room,

21"'· MR. CRANSTON:

31' do you have undelr- a separate heading the · c•ns1de;at1on of whe

4 we Will act; -on the parcels which we have not yet· S-t~t :f'or 'bidd

5 if 171:e-pake such act.ton?

''M'R. HORTIG: There is a recomm.endation on a a1u.oceed ,,

7- parcel on page ·· 56 of your calendar.

8 im. C.RArNSWON: Let's take that up in conjunction wi

9 this other.

i«m. HORTIG: Proceeding f~'Om ~"est to east3 as sl1own

11 · on the a .. ttached map, bids having been received dn Paro.el 2, ,;:-.

12 ' bids on Parcel 3 to be received April 7th, the next parcel 'I,-

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13 (praoeeding ip. an easterly direction) available f'br ·1ea$e or:re 14 would be F.arc~l 4,; the recornmendat1on for! advertising this

l.5 I pru;>cet tl!Jr lease be:ting the sub;Ject or the diaoussion on :page •.

16 l · With aJ.l these dates, I again refer to the CGllllllissio •

17 ... t he1 tact that the <tue date for bids on P~rcel 3 is April 7th

.,r 18' arid the next .. scbeduled Com.mission meeting is Apr1J. l:dth, so

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19 ,_ ·that ,at the April 12th me~t1ng we can report results to the

20 Co~-nission, even as we have today on th'.:: results 01"' last Ii'ri-

21 f dayrs bid receipt on ?arcel 2.

221 MR. CARR: i•l:t"'. Chairman, Itd like tQ augg,est that we

23 consider tll\e deferment of* P.a.rcel Ntunbo~ 4.t and de1-.c1~ th.at to

24 t ht;? 12th betiore we set it; uecauae then we wlll have time to

2f1 fH!e1 whe~ the bido ara on the "{th and wa w.tll have a moat:lnr; on

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oould deter that t~r another nionth. ' .

GOV. ANDERSON: Second that ..

$ I~R. CRANSTON: C0naidJrati01il Of setti'l\g aotio~ on

4 Parcel 4. is µ,nantmoualy def erred to the April 12th meeting. \' .

5 . Mr.. Carr, in :tl\ee;ard to Pa.r~el l, I think it m;gl},t b~ JJise to

s set co:naiderK:tion and discussion of that paroel and wha't .rurt

7 action, if any, the b~rd would like to tak<i:., for tha same -;:.

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MR. CARR: ';: Yes, ~~. Chairman) I . t~l.ink that \'!OUld be

a good j.dea. We put the.t through the mercy.go-round once and

l~l · could start it around again .. 'I

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·' GOV. AND:ERSON: Do you think th.at shou:ld be the·

12 same date or subsequent?

13"· . HR. CARR: 1Jotts have it c;1 subseq,u~nt date •

14 · consider Parcel· l on tbe 12th,, whether we set it. then or some ·

15 .···.other time. "·'

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16 ;,GQV.. ANDERSO)~: My 9t fhand opinion would be that .

17 Parcel l would be better on a separate date. ·

18 rm.. C~NSTON ~ .. We will con~·ider Pattc.el l ha.p.ging in ·

19 air.

20, lJlR. HORTIG: Do you wish it calenda:tted for d1sf~uss1

21 April 12th or sub~equent 4? './

22 MR.· CRANSTON:;~ Apparen.tly subsequent to that would

23 be a12 rie:;ht. Do :you feel any other item should be taken up

24 befo31~ Glenn leaves the hearing? What is the next: impor~.::a11t

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We will then retut'1i~ t~~ wb.eJ;•e . W6

4 ott, to item {m.J' under Clas&:tf:toation 2. · Th~ta is an applicat~. n" ;' {'

tS o:f Lindtl~l" Spight -· approval ot sublease Contra Costa Count·~'~ ·

a ·to Dunlap mtoleeale Radio Company~ for operatj~on of' a two~w~y

7 mierowave relaJr st.a.tio:n~

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GOV. ANDERSON: We tool-c that previous 1tan out ot:

r~m... GRANS'l'ON: '( f} -~ Edith C.. ¥.night - Amendment

11 · ot Grazing Lease FRC 2442.2, San Bernardino Coun:ty,, redlioing '

12 area to 3, 760 acres and annual l.,ental to $56.40.

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GOV .. ANDERSON: Mo objection.

:(\nt. ·HtPRTJ:G: ThiS is i:J·, standard :action required· in

15 vi.ew of the fact th& Cormnias1on has heretofore autho1~ued th~

16,' aa.l~ to another p~haser ()f a port~on or the lands previoual:;

17 co11tained in the grazing ler1.se, therefore dee:t=teas1~g the ari1ov

18 of land left for the.graz;ing lease.

19 f' GOV. Al:IDE.RSON: I move it.

2cr r.m. CARR: Second.

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22 unanimously made. (g} - Moe 3a11d Comp~ny ..... - Determent of

as op/Jrating requi:t1f.;ments·., Mi:fa.era.l Extraction Lease PRC 2'036.1,.

24 · tor lease :,r·eaX" ending ll/ll/60. In the P•s·t the lessee has

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t, · tbe;~t now have oper'at1or1al pr<:>cedi.tre whi-ah t11ey hope will

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Approval is moyed# seconded$ and

Item (h) - Pacific Gas and :Slectr:tc Comparcy

9· 49-year right ...... of-way easement,, 1.5 acres submerged land of

lo Newark Slough and Flummer (~reek, Alameda County~ ror• aerial

11: transm.imsion line. T1Dtal rental $487 .06.

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MR. CARR: I•!r. ot1airman, I wonder if in some or I these easements, which are highly necesna:ey and to w:hich I I think ther1e ls no obJ.ection whatsoeve1 .. except; the/ possibility ·

that in the devel~')pme.nt ot the rap.idly g:r~owing; area at"tru.nd thf

Bay it m.:tght be highly ad,van'cageoua at some time in the fircure'

that we have ilOW, whe?/e tl'le State xnoves facilities o±" public

uti.lities., su,ch as ra:.tlr.oad tracks or anything, they have, I

underst.<md, assumed or r1<c~gnized a legal responsibility wh:!.01· ha.sntt oeen com.pJQctely spelled out,, as to what the ~xtent is.

'.l.'his is a quesi::ion that I am not ... qu.alified to pass on,; except j it seems to me we a:,}•e so1~t ot on notioe tl".te.t c.1t1 a lont:;-tel1n1 J

ea~.H~ment su.ch as this it 1.H~comea :tn the pucilio inte:t'eot to

25 ;._-.elocate thane things a11d the State harJ ito neck ottt qul to a

respectable dlstance~

a. har.J been bro\;1gh.t to rtrJi attention but I have never run it dnw.n

1 · w:.tth th~ attor11eys. J:t 1 :., pendJ.ng .... it~ s a o:curt action.

5 tranJ;u~1asi on line needs to be protecte.d, but at the same time

a the State does also.

GOV. AI-OJIDl.30£.!: 11his is an area where w~ arre at

8 least ·talk111g about oceasionally fil.ling in and dredging an•·i. j 9 developing"' Where we put th1.s in, wllat does it cost u.s'?

l.O I~R.. UORT:LG: This 1$ a 220-KV' line and ii.' you will

11 :r•e.fer .. to the page follo-wing 30., tbere is the illustration

12 complete with looa.tion8 altitude and all~ The line is at a

15 clearance at the aeritra .. l point of 11i7 feet above'. mean hig..11

14. water and .it is an aerial t1•tu·1sm1ssion 1:1.ne-» s~apend.ed .from

15 towers located on priv:s.tely-oltttled landa on one e:tde and s~.ru.ng ·

:· · 16 over to privately.,.owned land (:.tn the othe1", and the cro.ssing ·o > f

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.. the 1State lands consists of twelve wix·es<J air high» above l

19 any reasonable type of activity on the State lands beneath.

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Aa a matter ot: fact" they are p·ut up so far so ·that navigatior

FIR. CAH:R: Wbat 1s the difference between these

f.J.R .• HORTIQ: The?'e are two apans of 822 :.and 1194

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\10V. ANDERSON; Fitty cents ·9. month.

'MR .• CARR: . .. . right .... or .... way easement and. .this in-

MR . ,,.,. .... HORT!G: ?iv.) sir.

DTR. CA!ffi: It is not th~re? /I

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r.m. HORTIG:: No air. :rt is perhaps :ln proce3::~.

7 " Uowever, ! r11ight aleo hasten to a.dd that the rights-oi"-way

a. ove1'1 the private land .on both s:l.d~s of the 5:3-ca.te land are hel

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I·1R~ CARR: What is the m1n1wum tlt~tanoe betwe~. the

surface of the water or tidel~1.ds "!

.. ,,.~..,. n ')R""!f'! "' .NJ.\• .i;·,1.·~ 4 u .. Minimu.111 clearance is 108. 3 feet - -

excuse mo, 100 feet 011 th~ lowes~ line-.

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1e ~ to see it tied up f'or for·ty .... nj.ne years ;tn an area that surely ·

17 in the not too d13tr.ttit rutur.e wtt are going to be t8,lking

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1·9 · going to cost a lot mo·~e to get eut of chis than :t~ent. O.i:'t

20: the other hand}' I don't see how you can stop lt.

f.U~. HOBTIG: The norrnal ~~~pecto.tion in this locatior .... "'

there are absolutely no .t'i~str:l.ctiPtU> on i'ut>ther develop::1entn, J

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2 might influence th.ls land un.derneath on purponcs for this land'.

~ ,1 atill unknown; but in five yea7.t*S - .... we lr.now on tt1e electronic

(' around:; we know there io an influence with a 22-0-volt trans-

5 mission line.

e ' I think we have to approve ~chis, t~ut I think we hav~

7 · in recognize there have been proposals for development or some

a. c:· ti'lo5e tidelands for Stat~ and private pu.:t"poses~ and after

9 a 220-volt transmission line isntt the best nei~hbor in the

10 • wox~la. Howe·\Ter,, I n.ove approval.

'11 GOV.. MIDER.~OR: Second.

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l am going to have to go.

I·IB. CRAI~STON: !ten (i) - E. W. Plutr1111er -- a'ne::::dmet;t .·

17; 3.·rs2 ... 63 acres and annual rental to $56. 74.

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18 GOV,. AlIDERSON: , r:rr .. Rose will be h"?re J."epresent:!.ng !'~ e:i,.

{Governor Ande1~son left meeting)

CAM: a year-to-yca1"l

' "."!:) '!' ,.oRm"' - It "' :t:" i 1 · ~ ' • i•.;.,.,,. n . 1 .1..u: · "s a , "1te-year eas..e wnicn w.as .1..ssue

22. on J1Jne 25, 1959, would ::t"'un until 1964; but tbe I"eductit)ll in I

a:t"Ga lo ~lade necezzaI~"' beoause a po1?t1.orl of' the lcaoed ai .. ea

again, authorized to be oold ol:1d l~ no lonc~i"' availa,blo

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Item (J) Burrell Re.ed -- eancellation c·t grazing

4 · lea.se and issuance q;f cer-titicate of' x-estitution tor unea1"ned

6 j rent in the &.1110i~'nt of '35.3;h Kern Cou.nty,; l.and sold •

. MR.. HOR'?IG: In this instance, instead ~r ~ale .or a

7 portion of land under lei\se, all of :1. t was authorized to be

8 · sold,, so there is nothing~ lef.~t to be leased; and these, certi-

9 r icates of resti.tution ~t1':je provided f·or in the statutes.

!·love approval. 10

ll I·iR .. CP.ANSTGl:i:: Second the motion -- action 1s taken

12 unanir.lously.

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Item (k) San Diego Gas and Ele--etric Compa~ -- I dEif'.;;rment of. operating reqµirer.:ei:ats on M:l.ne:ral Extraction Leaf PRC 2094.l for lease year ending 3/9/61. Further O.;redgi.ng 110.1 contemplated at this time but will b·e necessary within a two 1'

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or three-year period.

CAHR: What is this ~\bout~ !Jr. Hor·tig?

ActuallJr, the only way th~ otierations

20 s proposed by San Diego Gas and Electr~ic col.:tld be authoi"iZ~~

21 · under sta:cutce existing at tile tlme and cu..~et:i.tly ·- which wa~t ·

dioc;;harge or cooling water, q.s r1ell rt$ for an enti,.ance r.fbat'll1e .

t for brinc~ing fuel barge~.,, to the power plant -- wao to issue al. lillncx~al extraction pc::t.,mit i\?:r;i removal or "'X:1 cub.le :;arrl::J

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a,.. larly des1gn~~d to cover a norrr~l m:ineral extract:Lcn lease,

lrwhe1"e:tn there is annual ope1~ating ret~.uirements. Sf 4 f Apparently, these operating requirements are not

reasonably cont1nuou~llf' applioable r·~ ~- more unusual type ot 5'. Wnether or not thei'*e will

be additional dredging depends on whether or n.ot San Dlego Ga

and Electr:l.c. f'ind it necessary to expand their po\:er plant.

:~ra,, CAF.R: WouJ..d the deferment or these operating

lO requ:t.rem.ents allow them to resur,1e these operations at their

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r.IR... H.ORTIG: Aga:tn .:t t W()Uld requi1,.e speci.fi.c ap,provf1

by th~ start and in the intei"'1m the col~any is agai~- paying t .. ~

mi.nimu.m axu1ual rental for the lands and.,, :tn addition, if' a1zy- 1

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~aterlal is r.rem.oved would pa~t for the material at the rciyalty

Second tt.e m.otion.,

taken unanir:ou.sly,,

Item (1) we haYe acted on already,, so we come to

oublease, Contra

Costa Ciou.nty, to Dunlap Wnolecale Radio Company fol'"" ope1 .. ation

of a two-way 1111c .. >t~7ffave rolay ct at ion.

I lifould like to add in 3upploment only

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t·1R f> CAHR : Is this uu.bJect to approval by the

Communications Commiss1.on? ••• /

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r.m. HORTIG: Co ... peratively it J..3. We do rerer thes

e all to your Communications Divis.Lon ..

7 MR. CARR: I mean the Federal Communications D1vis1 ·h

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Yes sir, these are It'.c.c. licensed.

They already have their license?

10 1"1.R .&i• • HORTIG: Yes sir.

11 i~i.. CARR: NGll!,, what does this do 3pec1i'1cally?

Does this give them a location on Mount Diablo? 121 13 MR"' HORTIG: It would permit Dunlap Wholesale to pu

,. 3.4 . an antenna on an existing tower:t which is located u..uder a

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r~. CARR; Move approval.

i1R. CRANSTON: Second the motion -- action approved

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1a . unan:i.mously.

19 (n) - Statidard Slag Company -- two 25, ... year right-of

20. ~~y easements over vacant school lands, Ban Eernardino County I

21 to serve th<:;ir mine or.>erations -- (1) 9-plus ac1,,es, total

22 r~ntal $325 .. 25,; (2) 8-plua ac:t:1co, total xiental $228.22.

23 CAHR; What 10 thin, actH;.ally? In thiu a

24 o:ump for thio rJlag ope1•ation?

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CAHR: (j • • for a roa,:iway, not for dump:ln& the sl<:' :;

or anything like that?

I•m., HORtJ.1IG: Only for oonduoting mird .. ng ope:t1'ations

on the State land, and by referri11g to the map on the followi

page,. page 38., the Comm.ission will see the remote location anc

9 the astounding absence of even trails in the area, as indicat d

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1~1R.. CARR: :Giove app~oval.

z,:fil,.. CRANSTON: Second the motion _,... approved

v . .na.nimous ly.

Item (o) - 3. A* Tanner

Minerals Corporation of' undivided

-- assignment to Oalii'ornial

one-half interest in m:t.nera ·

extraction leases, Fresno and San Bernardino C0Ul.1ties:1 and

then thei,,,e is itemized three l€~ases ..

tion leases that have been a.$eigned or have been j.ssued pursu nt

·to competitive public bidding before, and it is proposeei that

by the Com."llission if assignment is to be allowed, of halt

interest ln these operati()nS by the Pl""esent lessee ...

l'iillt.. CBANS'ION :· I second the mot ion -- approved

unanimously.,

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a Pier A Eaot,, OiJ .. Aret.t Di')ainage,, second phaa1~; ent;;.t:::1a:ceu ~ub-

3. project ·ex~ex1ditu1"'e rxlom 3/7/61 to terminatiQn of' $50.tOOO., a:l 1

4. estimated as subs.1,dence cost • . -, ' fj'

t'1R. HOl1TI<l: This item 1~epresents one of the contin~

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following page 44 a.i.~d it is, therefore, recc>m.mended that the

Commission appro·\Te the cost proposed to be e~::pended, subject

to the standard reaervations that the anlount ultimately to 'be

a.11<.>wed as subsiaence cost, if any~ will be deterir:1.ined by an

12 · engineering l"eview and final audit subsequent to the time whler

13: the worlt on the particular project is completed.

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15 I second the mo'tion -- approved

16 unanimously. That finishes that item and establishes a

'17 w o~rld rs record or sixty seconds t"o:r items on Long Bea.ch.

18 Item Lf. -- Authorization for lease offers fer ext1 .. ac

i19 tion of sand and gravel at minirnuni royalty of 0:t.x cents per

20 . cubic yard: (a) 9-plum acres ti.de end submerged lands in bed

21 of Noyo River, neal'" Fort Bragg, I'1endocJ..no County~} pursuant to .

_,,, 22 · application of: Ba.xr;u).n Gravel Comp~ny; 'ltem ( b) - one-p.J.us

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3-, tra<~tion in speoir 1.(~rJ porti-ons o:t" t:~·1e bed o:r the ?loyo Hive1" -

4 · .. all hav.1.n~ been i')eviewed wJ. th. tl".~;; Department of.\ liat;ural Re-

6 '· 1CO'f1roeo., the 1.")ffice o:t tbe Attornf;y G~Jnex~a1, the Ii'ish t.tnd Game~

e · · Corn.mission, the Rec;:tonal Wat01~ Pollution Cont:r?ol Board, and

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.... t 1' 1 ., t" . l" "' " 1-.t:1.a:!\f.(£; ~.i.1e sa men .anci ne c-r:ee neaa ~een persona. iy

10 approach.ed on wb.ei;her 'Chis is a r»o~:1ar:itic spot tha:J:i th.e~r would

11 • hate to give up tor purposes or spawn:tngG?

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13. that this :l.s not the case. ~methe:r"' Fish a1'J.d G·ama r-ecelved

• 14 thio infoi~:~tion :t:rom tb.<:t salmon di:retJtly, I don• t l"J.1ow.

CARR: Shall we take the wo1•d or Finh and Garn.e,

16' Mr. and approve this?

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hr•v~~,., i 4- Wl<;;:1d~ a i"1Qt"' ·i on ~ - ~i.. v 1.u.<:<·~. ,.., 1,.. - •

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J.9 salmon and a tee lhead

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2 pag~ i+e of yo1.:t?J a~~nda 3~r; t;he ~ea,ul. t of a ~1urvey conducted,

3 as l"'equi1"ed by statute, by t.he State 'Lands Cornmisr~·1on of the

4 ° tideland grallt to t;he Sa1·l Mateo Cottn.t:y Ha.x~box1 Di.strict,.... tTndex

5 curren·c statutes, grants b;v· the tetgislati1re are t1ot va.l.:td unt:~ ..

a the area co.nveyed haa been aurveyed_i mon.tun.ented, platted and

7 :rrecorded by the State Lands Commisa:l.on; and it is i•ecommended I 8 that au:thorization be given for such appr~oval and recordationor.

9 IJlR. CARR: I dontt quite understand th:ts,, Mr. Chair"

:to man. Would you F..'Xplain what this procedure ls, Mr. Hcrtig?

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MR.. HORTIG: Yes alJ?"' Chapter 68 of the Statutes o';I gra.-ited to· the San Mateo County l!ll.rbor District certa.111 ~

15· when the area spec.tfied had been survey~1d, m.onu.ntent.ed,. platta

16 and recorded by the Statf:t ~"'lds (~om.miss1o:n. at. the coat of the

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is I MR~ CARRz Now, is th:ts - •'!<' does this represent

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20 I r~lFL, HOR1rIG~ Tb.is :r:lepresents the sum.i:nary sheet.,, J\s

21 you note, it; is sheet l of l.f~ but it rep1~esents the .er1til"'e

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area.. Th~.n:,e a.re three ui.ore detailed survey sheets tl'1at would I be x~ecorded, I-1.1."'Q Carr .r but th~:ry are la:i.~t;~er scale details ot

24L the ·total area wh:Lch lIJ l'lef1 lected on ·~hJ,o d.ia.gra.ra.

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3 that now re~u11 .. ea wi th:i.n ten yea.t"'S. o:t the e;:i::-ant tho La .. nds Co.rt1

4 ·· misoion shal.l m.ake an inves tit;atio11 and rir:port to the Logia..,.

ts · latu.r-e whethex~ the g1""atrtees devel()ped adeq·uately ·w1 thin the

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limits of the ()l"'ant,. tailing in which the lands would revert

t;o the State; oth.ei .. wise they will he pe:r~manent.ly in t:rtU.J,t

lands of the San Ha.teo Cotmt:y- Harbor; D:1.s tr:!.ot.

Wt.~ have approx.lmately siX or seven sltnllar i~rant

bil~La far the same purpose alread·y int:r)oduced at this session

of6 the r.,egislature, for various areas up a11d down the Californ ··a

coast. We ha.d a.bout six during the: 1960 sess:Lon ..

"'!i'O. PlJ.'1 .. HORTIG:

What is the San Mateo Harbor D:letric.t

'.ro develop a harbor.

16 MR." CAnR: Now" is this harbor that they are euppos1ct

17 t to develop this breakwa:be:rl outlined here -- the west breaJ;:wat, I'

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and the east brealtwa ter?

project, which c;ave :lmpetnJs to the Ha.1?b01" District.

14R. CAfili: 'h"b.at w:tll they do -- (l:redge. • ~ ••

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. inf'lide the breakwa:!;c)l"', ~,nd develop a~J much of a conunc1?clal ha ..,..

"* b cn11 as it itJ .:Cea;Jihlc to do.

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HE ( .. CA4~: Is i.t all in?

'!liffi .. '11 HORTIG; Yes 13 ·i X' ~,.. "''

MR" 0Al1.R! 'What remains is to d:r•edge this out?

5. f•1H .. HO:B.TIG: And provide landing docks and ot;he i';

As you see 3 there is cne old p:LeJ? in.

e.'.i:istence, which wo·uld be utte1,,ly inadequate for any reasonab e

am.cunt of commercial developmeni;.

water is in there. Wh.at is it? Do you have any fi.gures. on

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13. ing been a gently slop:l.ng and, weather--per.mitt;ing.;; rieoreation

14 heach prior to the time itr was fenced in, considerable d:t~edgi

15 i would have ·t;o be undertaken in order to p.r)ovide deep water

is ( f ccess to any reasonable length p:ters.

H I MR. CARR: Move a.ppr-oval.

18 I MR. CFLANSTON: Second the motion and actj,.on is

19 unanimously taken.,

Item 6 -- Authoriza;tion tor Executive Officer ·to

execute an interagency ag1')e~~mo:nt w::t.tn the Colorado fUJ.re1 ...

Boundary Commission, providing i:o1'l render:t~ig f'Jf enginee::rin.c;,

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3 , E:r.:ecuti ve Off ice!l ·pursuant to a.uthorit~f /~'~li' imed by ·the -~ \

4 . mission at ~t.ts meet.1ng on October ;, 1959 .\.

5 1~.rH.. HORTIG·: · l?ages 50 to 52 list the contracts

6 entered into and e.xte11e1ons granted fot' !Je:t~its previously

7 < authori:.ted<·bY the Cormnissior1 a.nd approval of assignments of I'

8"·, prerlJ'iously ex.ist.ing ,t~azing leases$; Which were. approved by

9., the Executive ()£fice1~ under the delagation o:e authority --

10 tor which aat1ons confirmat:l.011 is recommended.

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x.m.. CRAHST"OM: Second the motion. Ths action :ls "

thus taken unanimously.

We have acted on Item 8 8 So we go to Item 9 ,1 - ...

:r.'.1epo:r~t on sta·tus 0£ maJor litigation~

MR.'"' HOH:TIG: •• which,, as headed, :i.s intc,rrnative

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on.ly and lists the continuing action:;; which ha11e been fiJ.ed

and the prinaipal actions in which the Sta:t;e Lands Commission

119 is involved.

20 I wlsh to supplement the report on the U .. s .. versus

2I Anc:hcr, Which is the first case lif;lted, becau~e.,, .as stated.,

22 the United Sta.t€a has filed a motion to dismiss approximately

23 120 pri.va.te defendants~ At the tint<~ this repor·t was prepared

24 · that was set for Fel~xruaey 28th. On F•~b1~uax•y 28th, tnie> mctio· ·

25 wa.s pr.esen:tou, was gran.teu; but the docuu1entatlon by the

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" J. United States in bringing the balance of• the dc.tt~endants to

2" t~ial and the '.preas repot~b' hereon indicated that the special .

3 u~ s •.. attorney ind:toa;,tad. that the a9~~on migpt go" to trial as '

4 to the remaining defertdants by the end of this cglendar yea~.

5 , Df: particular 1nt~rest, of course, ia t?le !'act that., the State )I

8 is one of those remaining defendants.,,

vm.. CARR i But there has been r.1.0 interrogatory serv \ a on the 'state?

9 £•1R·. HORT!G: Not fil~d with the State of California,

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CARR: Mo action required ••••

Iv'.lR. HORTIG: .... because the gist o:t: the report is

lS to keep yqu informed. ·

14 r~m .. ~RANSTON: ls there a.:ny action to take en

1.5 Hermosa Beach?

16 !•1R. HORTIG: There is no action the Conunission e.an

17 tak:e~

18 I;;ffi. CRANS TOM: Do we !r'J.ave to make a determ.ination

19 one wau or the othetv whether there can be a, resc:J.ss:\on of tl1e

20 Hermosa Beach contract?

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2.2 further discusaion, with the Ot:f"~toe ot the Atto:t1:ney Gei."1eral,.

23 I;lB. CRAHSTON: But there i:.; no action on. that on •,

24 the bas.ta o:r th1·e?

25 Mrt. HORTIG: No sir.

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3 , caiendar items?

T·l'l"O "'J:fl.-. rjRANS~OI¢: I would· like to suggest that .. we have \{

a op. our agenda at tl'ie next. sess.:1.ot;.,, if .. there ie time, Gonsidera "

7 t:to11 and a: bx~1e:r review of our oaler;.dari:rs.~ prooedtirea, p:rima.ri. y · /.

s along th;i ~ line -- a:re· we too 1nf l~'1.ble in these p,r.ocedu~es '- - '

9 and can-. We b.e T:iO:.t'e f lexi'ble in regard to the time Sched\Ues

10 and the deadlines of parties to get on 01Jr. calendar? Can we

11 be any more flexl,"ble with regard to the:, ability of the staff

12 to consider the m~tters b.etoPe" us anct advance notice needed ,

is. i'or .. the Commi&siort? J! am not aertaiti we are doing this exact+

l.4 :pigh.t ai~:td ·I•d like to hav'e a :discussion of it. S'o rna.y we

15 h ·ave that on the calendar'?

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DIR. .HORTIG: Y~~s ·sir. , ..

1:1R$ CRA!4°Si10N: 'I'he11 we are :t';eady f'or .the decision ·

on . the nexj; Comm:Lssion meeting, vthi<'.h is presently scheduled I 19 . · for Weditesde:y, April 12th~·· at 10 a.m.~ itl Sacramento. If ther

20 is no objection to that date., that will stand and that 1s w11en

21 we. will next meet.

22 'l'he n1eetlng now standa ad,journeei'\.

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